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I was asking for an Amazon link for <i>Davy</i> specifically, not the Kindle Store. Entering "pangborn davy" in the search window the link below brings up gets back</div>
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with the results I listed in my previous msg (dead-tree solo, dead-tree package with
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Do you have a link for that? Amazon shows me an expensive dead-tree version, a more-expensive dead-tree package that includes
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 30, 2024 2:21 PM<br>
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Gay —I'll be leaving early (no later than 6, probably earlier) the next two Wednesdays. Will you be in on the 18th?<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 29, 2024 9:11 PM<br>
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<div>I will be coming in next Wednesday night and will be happy to help you set up the other networks in your Libby account. Just make sure that you have a password associated with your library card, s you will need it.
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Gay — can you provide more detail on how to make statewide e-book access work for an individual user? The info I see on
<a href="https://masslibsystem.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://masslibsystem.org/</a> suggests that MLS membership is available only to libraries;
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 29, 2024 12:15 PM<br>
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<div>I'm going to remind those who live in Massachusetts, that besides the Commonwealth Catalog (allowing anyone with a Mass library card to request physical materials from anywhere in the state) and that most libraries will also have the ability to place OCLC
requests nationwide, the Mass Library System (MLS) also has a workaround for the publisher specific network contracts for ebooks. You have the ability to sign up for an account with any of the eight statewide Library Networks (CLAMS, Minuteman, CWMars, MBLN
(Metro Boston Library Network), Sails, NOBLE, Old Colony, and MVLC (Merrimack Valley Library Consortium)) through Libby/Overdrive. The MLS acts as an aggregator linking your searches for a title onto one record when it comes to checking out/requesting an
item to borrow (and even tells you how long the wait is for an item in each network). All that is required is a library card with a password already established when you applied for your card (you can retroactively in most networks get this added to your
record yourself or by calling your library to request this). There are also some Libraries - New York City, for example and the BPL (Boston Public Library) that allow you to establish an electronic card to access their ebook collections.
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<p>Thank you all for contributing to this discussion. Sorry, Wes, if I misunderstood, and thank you Rick for your post respecting concern for accessibility.<br>
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<p>Maybe who ever nominates a book should make sure that there are at least a few copies available in THEIR local libraries or library systems.<br>
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<p>When it was my turn to nominate books a month or so ago, I made a list of all my favorite sci fi and fantasy books and looked them up in the Minuteman Library Network. Out of about 21 books on my list, only FOUR were in our normally great library network
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<p>Granted, my favorite fantasy books were all by women writers and included specific books by Moyra Caldecott, Sidney Van Scyoc (Darkchild!), Evangeline Walton, Louise Marley (music lovers: read her Singers of Nevya books!), Pamela Sargent and to some extent
Sara Roethle (in addition to Ursula Le Guin and Patricia McKillip). And it occurs to me that most of those books were written in the very-male dominated days of science fiction when publishers and award organizations catered to stories and books written by
men. So those books - some of which are exceptional - were not reprinted.<br>
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