[nesfa-reading-group] I signed up for a personal Zoom account.

David G. Grubbs dggrubbs at gmail.com
Sun Apr 12 13:07:28 EDT 2020


Unfortunately, an individual account starts with one host and can only
transfer hosting to another person with a "Pro" license (if I read it right
-- we can experiment). It is certain that the account only allows one host
at a time -- it would double the price to add a second host (and triple for
a third).

Only the owner of the license can send out an invitation -- again, if I
read it right, which is why I wanted to experiment.

I may have time later today and will certainly have time in the next few
evenings to experiment.  After I subject my wife to some experiments here
for my own satisfaction/learning, I'll suggest something further.  I see
from the next message (which showed up while I was typing this), that David
W. is willing to help test.


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:12 PM Louis Galvez III <boogalouis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think Zoom works better overall. I’d rather use it.
>
> What I’d like to know is:
> If you can’t make a meeting, can anyone else start a meeting? Can anyone
> else start a meeting before you arrive? (Can you select a co-host before
> the meeting starts?)
>
> These aren’t deal killers, I’m just interested in knowing.
>
> In the worst case, you can’t make a meeting, we could shift to jitsi for
> that meeting.
>
> Louis
>
> The bastard child of absurdity and the sublime.
>
> Sent from Snoopy, my other iThing
>
> On Apr 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David G. Grubbs <dggrubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Just to the Reading Group.  Louis -- your choice.  Jit.si seemed to work
> OK.  I'll play with Zoom and we could see if that works for me, with a few
> of you at some point before May 1st.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM David G. Grubbs <dggrubbs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I signed up for Zoom. I thought some of you might want to know some of
>> what I just found out.
>>
>> (Side note to those who heard me talk about the MIT Zoom license that
>> Rick Kovalcik and Richard Duffy have access to. It doesn't seem available
>> to me. I didn't really expect it, but I thought it might be possible since
>> I have the same legacy account as they do, and I was one of the people who
>> actually set up the MIT connection to what was to become "the Internet" in
>> the early 1980s.  I thought I might be still connected in some way.)
>>
>> I paid for a personal Zoom account that will allow one host (which is
>> enough for a small meeting) and up to 100 participants.  I can afford it
>> for now and I looked carefully at a lot of details.  I can cancel at any
>> time, for one thing.  Another thing I looked at is the uproar over security.
>>
>> Because Zoom was suddenly in the forefront of video conferencing
>> services, they received a lot of attention. Several "security watchdogs"
>> dove in and attacked the system. They found several problems, but every one
>> of them has been fixed (according to the watchdogs themselves -- who went
>> on to say that *other* conferencing systems might still have problems in
>> the areas they found).
>>
>> Zoom has something like 75,000 large corporate clients who use Zoom all
>> over the world. Those companies also pushed Zoom to improve in all sorts of
>> areas and they responded to make their platform, in my opinion, unlikely to
>> be any worse than anything else. All other choices would be at the same
>> level of trustworthiness as Zoom, or *less*. If you are simply wary of
>> video-conferencing, then don't participate. Otherwise, Zoom seems to be
>> robust and one of the best of its kind.
>>
>> They say in absolute terms that they do not sell personal information.
>> Any noise about that is due to leaking from (apparently fixed) bugs in the
>> system, not intentional plans to use personal info.
>>
>> So, I'll practice a bit so I can set up small meetings if that becomes a
>> need. My setup *could* support a NESFA meeting, if something went wrong
>> with Richard's setup, but I'm not suggesting that. I was thinking more of
>> the Reading Group, or other things I do for NESFA such as the NESFA Press
>> group, or the web-committee, or board meetings (if Richard is
>> pre-occupied), or . . .
>>
>>
>>
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