[nesfa-reading-group] I signed up for a personal Zoom account.

Sun Apr 12 14:19:56 EDT 2020

I hunted around a bit and I can't find anything like that.  What I read was
that a co-host has to be able to be a "host", which requires a Zoom
Account.  It may be a Free account, but I thought I read -- and I can't
find it now -- that turning over hosting requires either a license with
multiple hosts, which I don't have, or another person with an account that
lets them be a host for a normal meeting (i.e. one that is not limited to
40 minutes).

But we'll find out with experiments.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 2:00 PM Wesley Brodsky via reading-group <
reading-group at lists.nesfa.org> wrote:

>
> “Host controls allow you as the host to control various aspects of a Zoom
> meeting, such as managing the participants. The co-host feature allows the
> host to share hosting privileges with another user, allowing the co-host to
> manage the administrative side of the meeting, such as managing
> participants or starting/stopping the recording. The host must assign a
> co-host. There is no limitation on the number of co-hosts you can have in a
> meeting or webinar.”
>
>
>
> So, what I think that means is the host is needed to start a meeting, I
> suppose they cannot leave the meeting before it is over. The host can
> assign an unlimited number of co-hosts; who have many of the meeting
> controls the host has.
>
> On April 12, 2020 at 1:08 PM, "David G. Grubbs" <dggrubbs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, an individual account starts with one host and can only
> transfer hosting to another person with a "Pro" license (if I read it right
> -- we can experiment). It is certain that the account only allows one host
> at a time -- it would double the price to add a second host (and triple for
> a third).
>
> Only the owner of the license can send out an invitation -- again, if I
> read it right, which is why I wanted to experiment.
>
> I may have time later today and will certainly have time in the next few
> evenings to experiment.  After I subject my wife to some experiments here
> for my own satisfaction/learning, I'll suggest something further.  I see
> from the next message (which showed up while I was typing this), that David
> W. is willing to help test.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:12 PM Louis Galvez III <boogalouis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think Zoom works better overall. I’d rather use it.
>>
>> What I’d like to know is:
>> If you can’t make a meeting, can anyone else start a meeting? Can anyone
>> else start a meeting before you arrive? (Can you select a co-host before
>> the meeting starts?)
>>
>> These aren’t deal killers, I’m just interested in knowing.
>>
>> In the worst case, you can’t make a meeting, we could shift to jitsi for
>> that meeting.
>>
>> Louis
>>
>> The bastard child of absurdity and the sublime.
>>
>> Sent from Snoopy, my other iThing
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David G. Grubbs <dggrubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to the Reading Group.  Louis -- your choice.  Jit.si seemed to work
>> OK.  I'll play with Zoom and we could see if that works for me, with a few
>> of you at some point before May 1st.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM David G. Grubbs <dggrubbs at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I signed up for Zoom. I thought some of you might want to know some of
>>> what I just found out.
>>>
>>> (Side note to those who heard me talk about the MIT Zoom license that
>>> Rick Kovalcik and Richard Duffy have access to. It doesn't seem available
>>> to me. I didn't really expect it, but I thought it might be possible since
>>> I have the same legacy account as they do, and I was one of the people who
>>> actually set up the MIT connection to what was to become "the Internet" in
>>> the early 1980s.  I thought I might be still connected in some way.)
>>>
>>> I paid for a personal Zoom account that will allow one host (which is
>>> enough for a small meeting) and up to 100 participants.  I can afford it
>>> for now and I looked carefully at a lot of details.  I can cancel at any
>>> time, for one thing.  Another thing I looked at is the uproar over security.
>>>
>>> Because Zoom was suddenly in the forefront of video conferencing
>>> services, they received a lot of attention. Several "security watchdogs"
>>> dove in and attacked the system. They found several problems, but every one
>>> of them has been fixed (according to the watchdogs themselves -- who went
>>> on to say that *other* conferencing systems might still have problems in
>>> the areas they found).
>>>
>>> Zoom has something like 75,000 large corporate clients who use Zoom all
>>> over the world. Those companies also pushed Zoom to improve in all sorts of
>>> areas and they responded to make their platform, in my opinion, unlikely to
>>> be any worse than anything else. All other choices would be at the same
>>> level of trustworthiness as Zoom, or *less*. If you are simply wary of
>>> video-conferencing, then don't participate. Otherwise, Zoom seems to be
>>> robust and one of the best of its kind.
>>>
>>> They say in absolute terms that they do not sell personal information.
>>> Any noise about that is due to leaking from (apparently fixed) bugs in the
>>> system, not intentional plans to use personal info.
>>>
>>> So, I'll practice a bit so I can set up small meetings if that becomes a
>>> need. My setup *could* support a NESFA meeting, if something went wrong
>>> with Richard's setup, but I'm not suggesting that. I was thinking more of
>>> the Reading Group, or other things I do for NESFA such as the NESFA Press
>>> group, or the web-committee, or board meetings (if Richard is
>>> pre-occupied), or . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
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